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Title: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: SJK2 on March 12, 2019, 05:12:23 PM
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190311/governor-bevin-signs-nra-backed-constitutional-carry?fbclid=IwAR3OMXhcaEy_KO366O6j079mxyY615fmiLUIdPYq8mfhrOaCsKoy4QifzOk (https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190311/governor-bevin-signs-nra-backed-constitutional-carry?fbclid=IwAR3OMXhcaEy_KO366O6j079mxyY615fmiLUIdPYq8mfhrOaCsKoy4QifzOk)

Governor Bevin Signs NRA-backed Constitutional Carry

"Fairfax, Va. - The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) today applauded Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin for signing Senate Bill 150 into law. SB 150 is NRA-backed legislation that fully recognizes the constitutional right of law-abiding gun owners to carry a concealed firearm.

 “On behalf of the NRA's five million members, we would like to thank Governor Bevin for his leadership on this critical issue," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action. "This law is a common sense measure that allows law-abiding citizens to exercise their fundamental right of self-protection in the manner that best suits their needs."

Kentucky already recognizes the right to carry a firearm openly without a permit. Current law, however, requires a state-issued permit to carry that same firearm under a coat or in a bag. This new law simply extends the current open carry rule to concealed carry. Those who obtain permits will still be able to take advantage of the reciprocity agreements that Kentucky has with other states.

With this law, Kentucky becomes the 16th state to recognize constitutional carry, joining Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wyoming.

"NRA members and Kentucky’s law-abiding gun owners also appreciate the hard work and leadership of the bill sponsors, Senators Damon Thayer, Brandon Smith and Representative Savannah Maddox. Without their efforts, this bill would not have become law," concluded Cox."
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: imahangtia on March 12, 2019, 05:54:58 PM
Bravo!
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: sbhaven on March 12, 2019, 07:04:41 PM
Good for them. 16 states now with constitutional carry, yet CT is going the other way. At least 30% of the states in this country are now constitutional carry.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: BerettaBoy213 on March 12, 2019, 07:14:43 PM
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Good for them. 16 states now with constitutional carry, yet CT is going the other way. At least a quarter of the states are now constitutional carry.

1/3rd.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: sbhaven on March 12, 2019, 07:17:02 PM
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1/3rd.
Yeah my math was slightly off. Was in the process of changing it when you posted.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: JBear on March 12, 2019, 07:19:02 PM
In other words, the ones that were loose are getting looser, and the ones that are tight are getting tighter. This isn't good for the community as a whole, it's only good for those that already have it good. Polarization. It isn't the rising tide that lifts all ships... it's the clash of temperatures that form tornadoes.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: mu2bdriver on March 12, 2019, 07:31:24 PM
Cue the Bevin Bell outrage. Good for the Commonwealth and the Gov.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: M1A_All_Day on March 12, 2019, 09:51:32 PM
I'll forgive taking the hand-out from the state of CT for his family-owned Bevin Bells Company that burned-down in 2012 if he comes back here and tries to help the 2a effort. BTW- Bevin Bell factory is still a crater on Bevin Blvd- https://goo.gl/maps/3vsearKAErx (https://goo.gl/maps/3vsearKAErx) .

https://www.middletownpress.com/news/article/Owner-vows-to-rebuild-ruined-bell-factory-in-East-11825329.php (https://www.middletownpress.com/news/article/Owner-vows-to-rebuild-ruined-bell-factory-in-East-11825329.php)

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Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: sbhaven on March 13, 2019, 06:42:23 AM
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Polarization.
Correct. This is just one more example of how polarized this country is becoming with respect to the 2nd Amendment and guns. Contrary to liberal gun grabber cries, there is no blood running in the streets in constitutional carry states.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: JBear on March 13, 2019, 06:40:59 PM
The 2A and guns is just one more example of how polarized this country is becoming in general.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: mu2bdriver on March 13, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
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The 2A and guns is just one more example of how polarized this country is becoming in general.
Do you think it’s becoming polarized or does the opposing side just seem to be more and more extreme?  I think of myself as fairly level headed and the left just seems to be pushing further and further to the extreme. I don’t think our side, or the right side, is pulling hard in the opposite direction. Certainly not at the federal or State/local level. Most on the right in those positions are  just establishment R’s.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: JBear on March 13, 2019, 07:20:36 PM
Oh, they are absolutely getting more and more extreme. It makes no difference though, all we have to do is not follow and the polarization intensifies. We can even be sliding left as well, trying to compromise, but if we aren't going left as fast as they are- polarization intensifies. TDS has injected the Overton Window with nitrous, and pretty much the entire MSM is on board beating the nation over the head with it 24/7. The only way to insulate yourself from it is to unplug... which just means you won't see them coming for you when you're the last sane person left.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: M1A_All_Day on March 14, 2019, 12:34:56 PM
This is a repeat of the late 1960s.
A president very unpopular with liberals.
Civil rights movement.
Americans, in general, tired of a long war on the other side of the planet.
(OT- but McNamara should still be held accountable for holding-back the THUD pilots for so many years allowing North Vietnam to strengthen and ultimately win.)

The acute issues may be different, but the socio-political dynamics are the same.
And governing agencies greatly enjoy watching the citizens expend all their energy on infighting rather than aiming their disdain at them.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: BerettaBoy213 on March 14, 2019, 01:53:52 PM
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(OT- but McNamara should still be held accountable for holding-back the THUD pilots for so many years allowing North Vietnam to strengthen and ultimately win.)

do you think simply ramping up the bombing campaign earlier would have done it? Always agreed with Hackworth that the only way to "win" in VN was to unify the country under the south government, i.e. invade the north. But that had consequences we didn't want to deal with, so were stuck in 2nd gear the whole time. Commies knew this and just waited us out. Don't mean to relitigate the VNW.

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And governing agencies greatly enjoy watching the citizens expend all their energy on infighting rather than aiming their disdain at them.

likely the goal.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: M1A_All_Day on March 15, 2019, 07:46:32 PM
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do you think simply ramping up the bombing campaign earlier would have done it? Always agreed with Hackworth that the only way to "win" in VN was to unify the country under the south government, i.e. invade the north. But that had consequences we didn't want to deal with, so were stuck in 2nd gear the whole time. Commies knew this and just waited us out. Don't mean to relitigate the VNW.

likely the goal.

McNamara greatly restricted what type of targets could be bombed in the early half of the war. Picture a micromanaging liberal trying to avoid a full-scale war, but yeah, send in pilots anyways... stupid and every F-105 pilot still with us will tell you the same. He would not allow F-105s to bomb MIGs on the ground in plain-sight- until it was too late.

USAF officers of Vietnam were old enough generally to have fought in WW2 at young ages- these guys and their commanders KNEW how to win in Asia- destroy EVERYTHING and as fast as possible. Johnson and McNamara pussied-footed into Vietnam with restrictions on every type of engagement and let China and Russia reinforce the North while they still could. We could have gotten in-front of that.

So yes, letting all F-105s they were bringing over from western Europe to Korat, Thailand and letting them weapons-free from the beginning would have made reinforcing the North a lot more difficult and maybe would have saved the South.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: BerettaBoy213 on March 15, 2019, 10:22:00 PM
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McNamara greatly restricted what type of targets could be bombed in the early half of the war. Picture a micromanaging liberal trying to avoid a full-scale war, but yeah, send in pilots anyways... stupid and every F-105 pilot still with us will tell you the same. He would not allow F-105s to bomb MIGs on the ground in plain-sight- until it was too late.

USAF officers of Vietnam were old enough generally to have fought in WW2 at young ages- these guys and their commanders KNEW how to win in Asia- destroy EVERYTHING and as fast as possible. Johnson and McNamara pussied-footed into Vietnam with restrictions on every type of engagement and let China and Russia reinforce the North while they still could. We could have gotten in-front of that.

So yes, letting all F-105s they were bringing over from western Europe to Korat, Thailand and letting them weapons-free from the beginning would have made reinforcing the North a lot more difficult and maybe would have saved the South.

japs were in full fighting spirit until zhukov showed up and kicked the IJA out of manchuria. if the AF guys in the 60's thought they won in the air without holding any ground by going full willie pete on the home islands, well, I dunno what to say about their judgement. I am reminded of the Battle of Britain, various bombing campagins in the balkans and the inter-gulf-war raids in iraq by clinton for evidence of success of this method. not accusatory, just throwing something out there.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: SJK2 on March 15, 2019, 10:25:17 PM
How bout that Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry.......
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: imahangtia on March 15, 2019, 10:37:20 PM
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How bout that Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry.......


When I watch someone hijack a thread it warms the cockles of my heart.   :evil:
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: JBear on March 16, 2019, 07:11:40 AM
This topic is now about turbo diesels! Mine has 583k miles on it, and I'm driving it to my haircut this morning.

Too much too soon?
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: BerettaBoy213 on March 16, 2019, 02:10:38 PM
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This topic is now about turbo diesels! Mine has 583k miles on it, and I'm driving it to my haircut this morning.

Too much too soon?

shhhh. stop hijacking the thread. :evil:
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: JBear on March 16, 2019, 06:44:41 PM
Then I came home and washed it for the first time since it plowed the first snowstorm of the season and then promptly got parked!
God damn I love that truck.
I mean, apparently not enough to wash it before putting it away for indefinite amounts of time, but. We're never getting constitutional carry under this form of government, and it has nothing to do with Republicans. So.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: Bottom Rung on March 16, 2019, 10:09:58 PM
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Then I came home and washed it for the first time since it plowed the first snowstorm of the season and then promptly got parked!
God damn I love that truck.
I mean, apparently not enough to wash it before putting it away for indefinite amounts of time, but.

Definitely sounds like you need to wash that thing more often. Vehicles know you you love them when you wash them.
Title: Re: Kentucky passes Constitutional Carry signed by Govenor
Post by: JBear on March 17, 2019, 06:55:17 AM
Drive it more too. That thing gets real grumpy if it doesn't get driven every day. To many vehicles...