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Title: Questions about PA.
Post by: Masked on August 11, 2014, 12:09:16 PM
So, I finally talked my mom out of moving to Florida, into a place in PA. - Her being close is a big deal but, it raises a few questions.


Looking for a place in the Honesdale area..Possibly Warren county...(about 45 minutes outside of Scranton) sometime in the upcoming few weeks...



I'm in the process of applying for a Pennsylvania LCTF. Going to make a call earlier this afternoon to see if it's even possible.


My hope was to eventually free up some safe space - Since there are a few NICE ranges within 30 minutes of there but, if I can't get the LCTF it's going to be an interesting situation.


I'm looking for some information in regards to travelling through the horrible state of New York...As well as storing my firearms in a safe, in another state.

I think I've done my homework but, would rather get the info from someone that's done this before...

I do not plan on entering NYC or anywhere remotely close...In fact, 84w to rt6

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: joelcramer on August 11, 2014, 12:16:25 PM
You may freely travel through the state of NY. Federal law says if you start where your gun is legal and you are going to a place where you are legal you may freely pass through those states where you are not legal. That is provided you have the gun locked away from the driver and passengers and unloaded.

There should be no problem getting a PA pistol permit. As far as storing the guns in another location. Generally it is accepted that this is ok as long as nobody at the storage location has access to your guns. So install a safe or some kind of locked box and you should be good to go!
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: Masked on August 11, 2014, 01:57:28 PM
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You may freely travel through the state of NY. Federal law says if you start where your gun is legal and you are going to a place where you are legal you may freely pass through those states where you are not legal. That is provided you have the gun locked away from the driver and passengers and unloaded.

There should be no problem getting a PA pistol permit. As far as storing the guns in another location. Generally it is accepted that this is ok as long as nobody at the storage location has access to your guns. So install a safe or some kind of locked box and you should be good to go!


Thanks Joel!!!


Yeah, we're getting her set up with a modular home and a finished "basement" so my brother and I have a place to stay when we visit...I'll pick up a new safe for my house and probably take my current one over there.


It will be nice just leaving the Win Mag there because I don't shoot it locally.


Anyone have any advice on the PA permit? Do I have to take another class? -- I can't seem to find any info on that.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: sbhaven on August 11, 2014, 02:01:17 PM
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I'm looking for some information in regards to travelling through the horrible state of New York...As well as storing my firearms in a safe, in another state.
Its called FOPA. All states generally are supposed to follow it.... in theory. Its supposed to protect you while your transporting your firearm (note it only covers firearms, not magazines or ammo) from one state to another provided your legal at the start of your trip and the destination of your trip. It does not cover you if you stop for things other than gas/food and possibly overnight lodging, in a state that bans/restricts the firearm your transporting. So no stopping to visit family/friends in NY, no stopping (basically) for any reason other than gas/food in NY.

Firearms should be transported unloaded and in the trunk, if no trunk is available then unloaded and in a case that is inaccessible to you in your car. Some go the extra step of using locked cases for the gun and ammunition and unloaded magazines, and then lock the trunk (if possible).

Your other option is to ship any firearms to your self in PA if you don't want to drive them there.

While FOPA should protect you, it doesn't mean that if your stopped by law enforcement in New York (or any other uber liberal gun hating state) that LEO will respect FOPA. Once your stopped they may simply let a couple of lawyers figure it out.

As to storing firearms in another state. As long as your legally allowed to possess them there shouldn't be a problem as long as they are stored in a safe that only you have access too. If your mother or other family members have access to it then that may present legal issues if any of them are prohibited from possessing guns (especially handguns).

The reality is that if you don't do anything stupid, like speeding or aggressive driving, while driving through NY you should be fine so long as you follow FOPA to the letter. It might also be wise if possible to driving a car loaded with gun/NRA bumper stickers, that may give LEO incentive to find a reason to pull you over if your in southern NY. Keep a print out of FOPA with you in case your stopped. Avoid mentioning your firearms if you are stopped unless specifically asked, and you should not agree to let them search your car if they ask to search your car.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: JeepinMaxx on August 11, 2014, 03:19:57 PM
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Anyone have any advice on the PA permit? Do I have to take another class? -- I can't seem to find any info on that.


You do not need another class.  All you need is to get an application from the county's Sheriff's Office.  Fill out the application, provide a copy of your CT Permit and CT drivers licence.  Fee used to be $26 for five years.  Turn around time was fast.  Note- some counties simply stopped issuing non-resident permits.  I used to use Pike county, because it was the closest to CT.   They stopped because of the increased volume of non-resident apps (20:1) over resident. 


Lackawanna County Courthouse
200 N. Washington Avenue 1st floor
Scranton, PA 18503


For licence to carry inquiries:
Phone: 570-963-6719 Ext: 7100


By the  way - You can pic any county in PA to apply for the non-resident licence to carry
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: Jags93 on August 11, 2014, 03:21:39 PM
This is sound advice above. Although it sounds like you are avoiding NJ, don't bring hollow points through there.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: obewan on August 11, 2014, 05:45:39 PM
I have heard of people going to the Luzerne county sheriff's office ( court house ) and returning with a PA permit.  You might want to call in advance.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: 2ndamendment45 on August 11, 2014, 06:58:10 PM
Correct, fill out an application, pay the fee, wait for 10 minutes, get your picture taken and walk out with a PA LTCF.  My wife and I got ours in Reading, PA last October, now only if our house sells so we can get the F out of this state.....
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: randomsv650 on August 11, 2014, 09:06:14 PM
I walked into the Bucks Co courthouse one day on Doylestown, filled out a piece of paper, paid $20 and had my permit within 20 minutes. Pretty awesome!
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: SixShooterFan on August 11, 2014, 10:36:29 PM
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I walked into the Bucks Co courthouse one day on Doylestown, filled out a piece of paper, paid $20 and had my permit within 20 minutes. Pretty awesome!

Would you happen to have the address?  When I search on Google it gives me 3 different addresses for the court house.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: Masked on August 15, 2014, 09:46:11 AM
I was told you pretty much can just show up and get one as long as you have your CT permit/license...I'm going to go that route in Harris when we go to look at the property.

The other question I had -- Is that I've read up on the law and the LCM provision.

Magazines per what I've been told aren't constituted as firearms or parts there-of.

So If I wanted something bigger than 10, it's doable as long as I leave it in PA, yes?
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: sbhaven on August 15, 2014, 09:56:29 AM
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I was told you pretty much can just show up and get one as long as you have your CT permit/license...I'm going to go that route in Harris when we go to look at the property.

The other question I had -- Is that I've read up on the law and the LCM provision.

Magazines per what I've been told aren't constituted as firearms or parts there-of.

So If I wanted something bigger than 10, it's doable as long as I leave it in PA, yes?
I'm confused. The part in red, are you referring to CT or to PA? As far as I know PA doesn't prohibit so called LCM's. Our state laws governing large capacity magazines does not apply while outside of CT. That means that while in PA you can have as many magazines as you want and they can be in any capacity you want. Take 33rnd Glock magazines if you want to PA. You can even buy magazines in PA if you wanted to. You would be violating the CT law if you brought back into this state any magazines holding more than 10 rounds that you haven't declared to the state of CT.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: CTSixshot on August 15, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
Just watch out for the burning coal shafts around Honesdale, Carbondale and Union Dale. Don't need to be falling into any sinkholes, burning or otherwise...

Darn! I wonder if any of the Payes are still in Union Dale or even sweet Malia McGinnis, whatever became of her? Mmmmm!
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: Masked on August 15, 2014, 10:13:19 AM
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I'm confused. The part in red, are you referring to CT or to PA? As far as I know PA doesn't prohibit so called LCM's. Our state laws governing large capacity magazines does not apply while outside of CT. That means that while in PA you can have as many magazines as you want and they can be in any capacity you want. Take 33rnd Glock magazines if you want to PA. You can even buy magazines in PA if you wanted to. You would be violating the CT law if you brought back into this state any magazines holding more than 10 rounds that you haven't declared to the state of CT.


That's what I'm asking.


Thanks again SB!
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: randomsv650 on August 15, 2014, 10:56:18 PM

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Would you happen to have the address?  When I search on Google it gives me 3 different addresses for the court house.

Bucks County Court House
55 E. Court Street
1st Floor
Doylestown, PA 18901
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: toadyrock on August 15, 2014, 10:58:03 PM
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Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: SixShooterFan on August 24, 2014, 10:28:02 AM
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Bucks County Court House
55 E. Court Street
1st Floor
Doylestown, PA 18901

Thank you!  Perfect, about 40min from some family on the NJ side.  Will be taking a trip there next week.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: randomsv650 on August 24, 2014, 08:44:11 PM

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Thank you!  Perfect, about 40min from some family on the NJ side.  Will be taking a trip there next week.

You will need to provide "reasons" for carrying there. They also ask for 2 references, can't remember if they need to be PA residents or not, though


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Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: 2ndamendment45 on August 25, 2014, 06:47:36 AM
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You will need to provide "reasons" for carrying there. They also ask for 2 references, can't remember if they need to be PA residents or not, though

Maybe different counties / sheriffs in PA have different requirements....my wife and I got our PA LTCF in Berks county (Reading), no references were required.  We were asked why are we requesting the LTCF and I said, we are thinking of moving to the free state of PA and would be looking for a home and we like to have protection driving around....the sheriff says OK, just make sure you know the laws traveling from CT through NY and NJ. LTCF was issued in 10 minutes, I think the sheriff did a background check and that was it.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: 32bttln on March 13, 2019, 04:48:22 PM
An old thread, but have not seen any recent discussions on the topic.

Has anyone had any recent experience with the PA Non Resident Permit application? In particular the Doylestown location?

It appears that the process has not changed, but thought I would check.

TIA
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: Masked on March 13, 2019, 05:58:14 PM
You essentially need to go to Scranton. - Other boarder towns won’t issue in my experience.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: Glock84 on March 13, 2019, 08:47:59 PM
I went to Doylestown around two months ago and the process was smooth. Brought my form pre filled with info, paid my fee in cash and walked out with my permit in 15 minutes.
They will not issue you a non resident permit if the pistol permit from your state has any restrictions I.e. premesis only, target / hunting etc. It has to be full carry. They saw my ct permit and werent sure if it was unrestricted so they asked another deputy on their staff who confirmed the ct permit doesnt have restrictions on full carry and they issued my non res permit.
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: whit on March 13, 2019, 10:30:03 PM
I just got mine this past November at Wilkes-Barre, 20 minutes and I was done.  They have a coffee shop two rooms over from the sheriffs office. 
Title: Re: Questions about PA.
Post by: 32bttln on March 13, 2019, 10:44:09 PM
Thanks for the input guys. I will be in the area on Friday and will give it a shot. Will report back how it goes for other who may be interested.