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Here it comes
« on: January 10, 2019, 09:47:03 AM »

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Senators Introduce Assault Weapons Ban
Jan 09 2019
            Washington—Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) today led a group of senators in introducing the Assault Weapons Ban of 2019, an updated bill to ban the sale, transfer, manufacture and importation of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.

            In addition to Feinstein, Murphy and Blumenthal, cosponsors of the bill include Senators Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), d*ck Durbin (D-Ill.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Jack Reed (D-R.I.), Tom Carper (D-Del.), Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii), Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Ed Markey (D-Mass.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Bob Casey (D-Pa.), Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Tina Smith (D-Minn.), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.), Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) and Mark Warner (D-Va.).

            “Last year we saw tens of thousands of students nationwide take to the streets to demand action to stop mass shootings and stem the epidemic of gun violence that plagues our communities. Our youngest generation has grown up with active-shooter drills, hiding under their desks—and now they’re saying enough is enough,” said Senator Dianne Feinstein. “Americans across the nation are asking Congress to reinstate the federal ban on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. If we’re going to put a stop to mass shootings and protect our children, we need to get these weapons of war off our streets.”

            “Military-style assault rifles are the weapons of choice for mass murderers. There’s just no reason why these guns, which were designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible, are sold to the public,” said Senator Chris Murphy. “This past year, we’ve seen Americans rise up and demand Congress change our gun laws. Banning assault weapons would save lives, and I’m proud to join Senator Feinstein in introducing this bill.”

            “Assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are deadly and dangerous weapons of war that belong on battlefields—not our streets. They have no purpose for self-defense or hunting, and no business being in our schools, churches and malls,” said Senator Richard Blumenthal. “By passing this legislation, Congress can honor the memory of the beautiful lives cut short by military-style assault weapons in Newtown, Parkland, Las Vegas, San Bernardino and far too many other American cities. This is the year for my colleagues to turn our rhetoric into reality and finally end America’s gun violence epidemic.”

Key provisions:

Bans the sale, manufacture, transfer and importation of 205 military-style assault weapons by name. Owners may keep existing weapons.
Bans any assault weapon that accepts a detachable ammunition magazine and has one or more military characteristics including a pistol grip, a forward grip, a barrel shroud, a threaded barrel or a folding or telescoping stock. Owners may keep existing weapons.
Bans magazines and other ammunition feeding devices that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, which allow shooters to quickly fire many rounds without needing to reload. Owners may keep existing magazines.
Exemptions to bill:

The bill exempts by name more than 2,200 guns for hunting, household defense or recreational purposes.
The bill includes a grandfather clause that exempts all weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment.
Other provisions:

Requires a background check on any future sale, trade or gifting of an assault weapon covered by the bill.
Requires that grandfathered assault weapons are stored using a secure gun storage or safety device like a trigger lock.
Prohibits the transfer of high-capacity ammunition magazines.
Bans bump-fire stocks and other devices that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at fully automatic rates.
Updates to Assault Weapons Ban of 2017:

Bans stocks that are “otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability of a firearm.”
Bans assault pistols that weigh 50 or more ounces when unloaded, a policy included in the original 1994 ban.
Bans assault pistol stabilizing braces that transform assault pistols into assault rifles by allowing the shooter to shoulder the weapon and fire more accurately.
Bans Thordsen-type grips and stocks that are designed to evade a ban on assault weapons.
Mass shootings that took place last year using military-style assault rifles:

Las Vegas, Nev. (October 2018): In the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, a gunman opened fire on concertgoers in Las Vegas, killing 58 people and injuring 422 others. The gunman used multiple AR-15 style assault rifles fitted with bump-fire stocks.
Sutherland Springs, Texas (October 2018): A gunman entered a church killing 26 parishioners and injuring 20 others. His weapon was an AR-15 style assault rifle.
Parkland, Fla. (February 2018): A student at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School opened fire on his classmates and teachers, killing 17 and injuring 17 more.
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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2019, 09:55:37 AM »
This why we need Ginsberg to drop dead. I do want her to suffer long slow painful death. Not to long because we need to get someone sworn in before the end of the year.

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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2019, 10:01:11 AM »
It makes you wonder.
 Do the politicians really believe that us lawful gun owners are one step away from a physiological crash and will shoot up the public?
 They cant really believe that.
I just dont get it

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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2019, 10:16:13 AM »
Sure they will listen to thousands of kids when they take to the streets when they are in step with the democrat agenda but if these same kids took to the streets with the same passion FOR less gun control these people wouldn't give them the time of day! we have an "Us Vs. Them" government... its never going to change!
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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 11:05:43 AM »
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Do the politicians really believe that us lawful gun owners are one step away from a physiological crash and will shoot up the public?
 They cant really believe that.
I just dont get it
Actually some do believe that. It's called projection. How it works is some fear what they might do with firearms. If they had a gun and got angry they'd shoot something or someone. They cannot control their own fear and anger. So they project that fear and assume that everyone is potentially capable of using a firearm as they would if they gave into their fears and gave into their anger.

They simply cannot comprehend that someone else can control their anger and fears. They cannot comprehend that most people who own guns are actually mentally stable and have never used their guns in harm or in anger.

Keep in mind that most progressives belive that the state is responsible for protecting the individual (inspite of court cases to the contrary). So they feel why should they need a gun when the state will protect them? They then project that onto others and demand only police and military (you know employees of the state) should possess guns. It's why police/military are always exempted from their edicts regarding gun bans. They cannot comprehend the state harming them (as the founders experienced) so they feel the 2nd is outmoded and outdated. They actually ignore history and say who needs guns when they cannot stand up to the state which has; tanks, airplanes, and nukes.

If one hasn't read You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login they should. Its a good primer on why some are so fearful of guns and seek to ban them.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2019, 11:10:02 AM by sbhaven »
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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 11:14:22 AM »
dont doubt a mass shooting to take place very very soon, these things somehow always happen at the worst times when a bill is trying to be passed......

*** if the public wont see our facts on gun control, scare them into it.....
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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 11:16:58 AM »
All it will take is one more sensational event to make a new Fedral AW ban happen.

All it will take is one more Supreme Court appointment to make is possible to challenge every state and federal AW ban and have them struck-down.

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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2019, 03:55:08 PM »
"Bans Thordsen-type grips and stocks that are designed to evade a ban on assault weapons."

I've said it before and I'll say it again. This bill would ban every single semi auto rifle and shotgun unless specifically listed as exempt due to the new definition of pistol grip which allows them to ban the featureless stocks and would also ban traditional stocks because they have a characteristic that can function as a grip. This is 10x worse than 1994 ban.
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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2019, 04:50:41 PM »
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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2019, 07:06:25 PM »
Not sure it would pass the Senate but it will pass the House with our usual Rep gun grabbers gleefully voting for it. I could easily see it passing the Senate too thanks to RINOS there. I could also see the Dem's making a trade with Trump. We'll give you the wall later if you give us the gun grab now. If Trump did such a deal he'll torch most if not all of the Republican base. Plus as we've seen the past (Reagan for example) the Dem's NEVER honor their claims of give us this and we'll give you that later.

Like said above the "Thordsen-type grip" (an effort to go after the fuggly NY AR stocks) has the potential to ban all semi auto rifles. Will probably have to wait till the actual bill is filed and we can get a look at the proposed language. Obviously they will not included a sunset in this one like the 94 one.

Right now based on what they've proposed, not sure it would pass the current SCOTUS. Some of what they suggest seems like overreach for even a fence sitting SCOTUS justice.
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Re: Here it comes
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2019, 08:04:51 PM »
I'm with Stevo on this one, not long before theirs another horrific event. It always seems to coincide