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Author Topic: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR  (Read 4663 times)

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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #77 on: December 08, 2018, 08:40:49 AM »
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Correct me if I'm wrong but pre ban "assault weapons" didn't need to be registered after the 2013 ban right? People with those weapons would now get in trouble if they're caught with them?
Yes and no. Any firearm manufactured prior to 9/13/94 that is not on the banned by name list of the pre 4/4/13 law (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) is legal to buy/own/possess/sell/transfer. And does not (currently) need to be registered as an AW with the state. Those people shoulnd't be arrested or get in trouble for having them.

Some of what we are discussing here is the fact that some people/FFL's were buying/selling preban banned by name firearms after 4/4/13 because of SLFU's post 4/4/13 reinterpretation of the preban statute that seems to indicate that the language in the preban statute was expanded to include banned by name prebans so those previously banned firearms could now be sold/transfered, etc.

Those folks (and possibly FFL's) who sold those banned by name preban are the one's who might get hassled by police. The stupid wording of the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login is what it is. If one has a banned by name preban and gets charged for having it they will be charged with violating the wording of the stupid law. As we saw with the Kamisnky civil case decision the judge in that case followed the wording of the law not the SLFU reinterpretation of it. Hence Kaminsky couldn't get his illegal (per wording of stupid laws) firearms that were previously confiscated back.
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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #78 on: December 08, 2018, 02:16:58 PM »
So basically, if you purchased a pre-ban that's on the 1st list (1994) that was supposed to be replaced by the 2nd list (2013).  Now You cant sell it to anyone in CT, and now you cant even sell it to a FFL in CT.  So you are stuck being a felon.  (I suppose you could turn it in with no compensation...)

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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #79 on: December 08, 2018, 02:33:52 PM »
You can sell it to someone in another state, in theory, by shipping it directly to THEIR local FFL.  Of course, in most states a 20+ year old random lower receiver has very little actual value when PSA or AIM Surplus will sell you a new one for around $60.

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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #80 on: December 08, 2018, 02:47:53 PM »
maybe new york, mass and jersey???
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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #81 on: December 08, 2018, 03:17:38 PM »
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You can sell it to someone in another state, in theory, by shipping it directly to THEIR local FFL.  Of course, in most states a 20+ year old random lower receiver has very little actual value when PSA or AIM Surplus will sell you a new one for around $60.

Getting $20 or even $10 for it is still better than jail time and being a prohibited person for life when you get out.
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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #82 on: December 08, 2018, 03:24:13 PM »
or prepay for a p o box or safe deposit box in a free state and leave it locked in there   ;D ;D
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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #83 on: December 08, 2018, 08:14:03 PM »
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So basically, if you purchased a pre-ban that's on the 1st list (1994) that was supposed to be replaced by the 2nd list (2013).  Now You cant sell it to anyone in CT, and now you cant even sell it to a FFL in CT.  So you are stuck being a felon.  (I suppose you could turn it in with no compensation...)

you can cut it in half and avoid the buttock stretch to follow.

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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2018, 09:36:08 PM »
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you can cut it in half and avoid the buttock stretch to follow.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but isn't there a notification requirement for destroying/disposing of firearms?

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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #85 on: December 09, 2018, 12:48:44 AM »
The right / fair thing to do for the state is to (seeing its mostly the states fallibility) either open up another limited registry, or send notification giving time lines to get rid of what now is their new interruption of the wording for allowing these transfers to take place.

Ha that's a joke, will never happen. When the state is wrong they will never say so or will nyone from the state challenge their stance. Seeing the SCOTUS will not hear these cases on the Seconded Amendment, they will run amuck with their illegal n un Constitutional laws.
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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #86 on: December 09, 2018, 06:36:37 AM »
Since a banned by name is illegally possessed and I assume illegally transferred, can it be sold out of state? Does the seller face legal consequences shipping to an out of state FFL for transfer?

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Re: CT ATF AND STATE SEMINAR AAR
« Reply #87 on: December 09, 2018, 09:12:04 AM »
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Since a banned by name is illegally possessed and I assume illegally transferred, can it be sold out of state? Does the seller face legal consequences shipping to an out of state FFL for transfer?

No, they were specific about that. Selling it out of state (legally of course, as in shipping to a FFL) is your ONLY option.

If you have a home in another state you could bring it there too. It is only contraband in CT.
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