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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2018, 07:36:36 PM »
Rights responsibility and mindset of an armed citizen was the class.

I'm sure if we could generate enough interest, someone could probably reach out to the minister of training at ctcarry.com  :eng101:
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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2018, 08:56:55 PM »
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Rights responsibility and mindset of an armed citizen was the class.

I'm sure if we could generate enough interest, someone could probably reach out to the minister of training at ctcarry.com  :eng101:

So they don't do it anymore? That's a shame. It was very good IMO.
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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2018, 10:11:31 PM »
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So they don't do it anymore? That's a shame. It was very good IMO.

I'm not sure, looks like they did one last years.   Didn't see anything this year however.  I know a couple of years ago there was some interest on the forum and Rich set something up, it was my second time attending it.
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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2018, 11:05:16 AM »
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Some call it speed, some call it tactile, some call it combat. I was going to link to a YouTube video that I just saw (while looking for an example for you) but I felt it wasn't a very good method from what I have been taught.

I'm going to paraphrase Paul Harrell here and just say the likelihood you'll need to reload in the midst of a fight is somewhere between essentially none and none. The number of shots fired by a defender IRL are almost allways 1-3 or a mag-dump into typically a single attacker to no additional effect over 1-3 shots. The reason anyone carries a spare mag is for malfunctions, not more ammo to continue the fight.

SafeActionJackson - briefly what are your objections to EDC revolvers (beyond capacity)?
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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2018, 11:36:32 AM »
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I'm going to paraphrase Paul Harrell here and just say the likelihood you'll need to reload in the midst of a fight is somewhere between essentially none and none. The number of shots fired by a defender IRL are almost allways 1-3 or a mag-dump into typically a single attacker to no additional effect over 1-3 shots. The reason anyone carries a spare mag is for malfunctions, not more ammo to continue the fight.

SafeActionJackson - briefly what are your objections to EDC revolvers (beyond capacity)?

Couple of things:

I'd rather train for the worse case... reloads are important, but getting out of the holster and on target fast are probably more important... I wouldn't be so dismissive about what is important based on the "average engagement", if you were going by true defensive use numbers.... in most cases the weapon isn't even fired.... so should we not focus on the fundamentals.... of course not, as that would simply be foolish.

As far as revolvers go, they are generally heavy with very limited capacity... or in the case of the air weights.... so light they can be difficult to shoot, slow to reload, and if you do have a malfunction you are up sh!tz creak without a paddle, often without any options to correct the issue.  Long (and sometimes heavy) double action trigger pulls are not easy to master.... when compared to a typical striker fired weapon.

If you are serious about self defense, I would not consider a revolver a great option.  It my opinion that the average person would be much better served with a semi-auto handgun for EDC/SD.

They do however offer a few advantages over semi's, but I think the items I listed out way any benefit or perceived benefit.

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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2018, 11:40:44 AM »
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/puts on flame retardant suite

no need.

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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2018, 08:41:07 PM »
Gentlemen, shot placement trumps caliber every day, every shot. A well placed 9mm round is the single most effective handgun round you can shoot.


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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2018, 08:52:43 PM »
Scenario:  On your back being beaten and/or kicked so hard you can't aim, hit center mass, or anything other than kinda point and hope.  Would you rather have a 9mm or a 44 magnum hit the guy in the thigh?


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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2018, 08:55:25 PM »
i love the guys that think 9mm is a pu**y round.... I am still waiting to see any of them posting a video shooting themselves with 1..LOL  ( not really though)
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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2018, 09:05:13 PM »
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i love the guys that think 9mm is a pu**y round.... I am still waiting to see any of them posting a video shooting themselves with 1..LOL  ( not really though)


Go on a hike in Alaskan bear country.  You can only take a 9mm.  Run up to bears and say "boo!" 

Let me know how that works out for ya.


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Re: EDC caliber
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2018, 09:13:20 PM »
where did anyone say Alaska?   or bears???

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