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Author Topic: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.  (Read 1809 times)

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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2018, 03:08:44 PM »
I usually take my Full sized USP tactical in .45 auto when hiking..... but i know dam well it’s woefully indadequate for bear. 

I once asked an Alaskan guide his thoughts on 9mm / .45 for bear defense. He said you reallly should use .357 minimum, but if you insist on the former choices it’s VERY important to file down the sights on your handgun BEFORE entering the woods.  That way when the bear shoves it up your ass you won’t feel shit!
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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2018, 03:13:45 PM »
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You would not have time to go in your house and get serious rifle when a bear attacked, it would be over in a short period of time .

If that bear is in the yard, which I believe this thread is about, dang right you'll have time to get the Mosin Nagant Bear Spray. Heck, you wouldn't even have to worry bout where you put that dang can, wont have to get tired RUNNING out there to spray the bear, the wind or being in front of a 550lb black bear who is hungry as heck (they are not some kids teddy bear), n not worry bout the bear not reacting to the "condiment" - which you just flavored yourself with :)
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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2018, 03:19:35 PM »
As to the legalities, I cannot say. 

Do your research.  Many out West are moving toward semi-auto pistols for bear protection and not for our piddly little black bears to boot. It seems .40, 10mm, and .45 are the popular choices.

From my own reading, it is clear that bullet selection is key. A good pistol with a tough bullet seems to be the thing.

It’s an interesting topic, with bits of information scattered over the web.
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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2018, 03:44:11 PM »
My posts are about if I were outside with the dog.I don’t have many bear where I live , but many coyotes and a small terrier who never goes outside without me. If you were inside of course you could use a rifle , l would get a lot of attention if I were to walk around with a rifle taking my dog for a walk.

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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2018, 05:54:14 PM »
Bear pepper spray, eh?  I wonder if it is like seasoning on the user when the bear eats him.

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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2018, 06:24:52 PM »
A bears sense of smell is very sensitive. Bear spray is quite effective and safer in a neighborhood , not to mention the police. But you guys pound on your chest and brag about your powerful rifles if it makes you feel like a big man.

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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2018, 08:16:31 PM »
So I don't think a 45 ACP is adequate, better than 9 mm but not my choice. 357 mag, 41 mag, 10mm (not sure about 40 S&W) and of course a 44 mag, 454 Casul. A large bullet not a HP, hard cast certainly works on larger bears than Black Bears, you need to get inside to the vitals.
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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2018, 08:28:15 PM »
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So we have a lot of bears in our town. I have them walk through my yard several times a year.  One did just tonight which got me thinking. I have two dogs. If my dogs got in an altercation the a bear, can I legally shoot the bear?  I think gunshots in my suburban neighborhood would freak out my neighbors.

I'd think you'd be justified in the use of force against said bear if needed, that said I think bear spray and some basic knowledge and understanding of bears would probably go a lot farther than looking for an encounter.

We have bears in my area, and although I rarely see them, they are surely around.  Noise will usually spook them, and dogs barking should send them on there way. 

Taking a shot at a bear when it has your best friend is probably the poorest option you could be presented with, I generally either have a G23 or G43 on me, but I doubt you'll have time to retrieve any other firearm if the sh!tz h!tz the fan, in the woods I'll generally carry a 10mm.... but not while b-bopping around the yard.

I usually scan the woods with my flash light at night, just to make sure me and the pup are alone.  A few years ago I had a dog out on the property and he spooked a bear that was probably 30 feet away from me, I never saw the bear and only heard it hit the stream and exit on the other side.... bears are fast, he moved 20 feet or so to the stream, which drops down a good 4 feet, hit the water and exited on the other side in maybe a second or two and then could be heard plowing thru the brush on the other side.  He surely was danger close to me, but again he avoided contact.... good bear  ;D
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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2018, 08:54:50 PM »
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A bears sense of smell is very sensitive. Bear spray is quite effective and safer in a neighborhood , not to mention the police. But you guys pound on your chest and brag about your powerful rifles if it makes you feel like a big man.

No ones doing what you said. You can go on and promote science and biology all you want. You can stand there and promote "save the bears" n "protect nature" while beating on your chest in mother natures robes. There's been reports of bear spray not working. Not sprayed direct in the face, slight wind, or bear very angry / hungry / pissed off. I will not want to take belief that the newer cans work "better". A bear roaring in your face standing on its hind legs will put the fear of God in you. The last thing people will be thinking before they see God is why the heck did I bring an "aerosol" can to get this beast off my dog? There's only one reason why its going after the dog, its very hungry. The person with the spray can would be desert. If I have the choice of .308 / 7.62, you bet I'll be opting for the rifle.

While bear attacks are seldom in Connecticut, if any on s person - still does not leave one safe from bears, they are getting much bigger, bolder, and pretty much spread through out the state.

People can stick with their spray with bears in their yard attacking their dogs or other live stock, I will stick with my rifles. To each their own.
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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2018, 11:11:52 PM »
Rule #1. Never ask for a legal advice from anyone other than your lawyer.

I think same question have come up here already, one or two years earlier, and general consensus was that a) unless the bear was already chewing up your leg and you could prove it, you would going to be in a big trouble; b) pets are not considered to be a livestock for the purpose of that “livestock protection law”.


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Re: Legality of shooting a bear in self-defense or defense of pet.
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3 old cases in CT...Always shoot the bear in the front and claim you were in fear of life.

1. 2012, shot bear after it left garage, .30-caliber rifle, charged, $200 fine and probation
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2. 2013, shot bear with pellet gun to protect dog, no charges
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3.  2013, shot bear with 12-gauge shotgun to protect dog, no charges
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