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Author Topic: Safety warning about .454 Casull in a .45 S&W  (Read 519 times)

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Safety warning about .454 Casull in a .45 S&W
« on: February 10, 2018, 03:15:20 PM »

I don't reload either of these, so this is the first I've heard of this issue.



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Re: Safety warning about .454 Casull in a .45 S&W
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2018, 03:21:23 PM »
Been this way since 1957, most .45 colts would not allow the cylinder to close, wonder what year his pistol was made in.  If you are shooting a round like .454 and are not aware of this, you have larger issues.  Interesting that he is voicing concern about .454 when some load data for .45 colt would also sent that model S&W to it's grave as it would for any other gun chambered in .45 colt.

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Re: Safety warning about .454 Casull in a .45 S&W
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2018, 03:38:32 PM »
Pshhh... wheelguns.
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Re: Safety warning about .454 Casull in a .45 S&W
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2018, 10:40:30 AM »
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Been this way since 1957, most .45 colts would not allow the cylinder to close, wonder what year his pistol was made in.  If you are shooting a round like .454 and are not aware of this, you have larger issues.  Interesting that he is voicing concern about .454 when some load data for .45 colt would also sent that model S&W to it's grave as it would for any other gun chambered in .45 colt.


He did a follow-up video.  I'm not following this closely, so haven't read any of the comments.  He demonstrated his .454 rounds not fitting into a Ruger .45 cylinder, and a Beretta clone of a Colt single action.  He said his S&W was made in the 1980's

The super duper .45 Colt loads you mentioned:  Are they for newer guns that are especially designed for high pressure rounds?


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Re: Safety warning about .454 Casull in a .45 S&W
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2018, 11:10:47 AM »
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The super duper .45 Colt loads you mentioned:  Are they for newer guns that are especially designed for high pressure rounds?

Most loading manuals have a separate section for Ruger revolvers, T/C, etc., loads in .45 Colt.
They are stouter than the typical SAA Colt revolvers and such.

What kind of potential trouble will Taurus Judge owners run into?
Seems that you could chamber .450 Marlin, .444 Marlin, maybe even some 45-70 loads. Murphy would try it, I'm sure.
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Re: Safety warning about .454 Casull in a .45 S&W
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2018, 12:52:10 PM »
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Most loading manuals have a separate section for Ruger revolvers, T/C, etc., loads in .45 Colt.
They are stouter than the typical SAA Colt revolvers and such.

^what he said, not all manuals will have it.  Think Lyman's has 3 separate sections for the .45 colt, with the Ruger/Thompson Contenders data being close to .44 mag, of course these loads will also work int he S&W .460 XVR's.... as well as Freedom Arms pistols without any ill effect (as they are designed for higher pressure rounds to begin with), but don't put them in a black hawk or other pistola chambered for .45 colt or you will be visiting the ER.

Youtube is filled with dirpy gun videos, guess what some wouldn't consider common knowledge.... isn't so common......  I'll pass on tracking any of his videos down, as it seems pointless.  I was under the impression that most guns chambered for .45 colt wouldn't actually chamber a .454..... but now that I'm thinking about it, my Governor would probably accept one also, might have to run downstairs to confirm this..... that would be a catastrophic event for sure, as the frame is aluminum.
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