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Author Topic: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured  (Read 20694 times)

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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #407 on: February 02, 2018, 12:14:37 PM »
Did they ever report or let the information out about how many of the injured were actually hit by bullets. I don’t know if they ever even said what caliber was used. I think it would be very informative if it is possible, to see the pattern of where people were and who got shot where and how many were fatal. It would tell a lot about how the shooter was able to do what he did. If there was actually any skill involved or if it was just like shooting fish in a barrel as the saying goes.  :cry:

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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #408 on: February 03, 2018, 06:09:31 AM »
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Did they ever report or let the information out about how many of the injured were actually hit by bullets. I don’t know if they ever even said what caliber was used. I think it would be very informative if it is possible, to see the pattern of where people were and who got shot where and how many were fatal. It would tell a lot about how the shooter was able to do what he did. If there was actually any skill involved or if it was just like shooting fish in a barrel as the saying goes.  :cry:
I believe I read somewhere, that all injured were by bullets . Or maybe it was killed ?

Can't remember now

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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #409 on: February 03, 2018, 10:40:47 AM »
Very hard to believe all 500 "wounded" were hit by bullets, especially knowing how people are in a mass hysteria. Heck just look how people act during black Friday.
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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #410 on: February 11, 2018, 11:02:59 AM »
Las Vegas shooter’s autopsy gives no clues
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Autopsy records obtained Friday by the Review-Journal shed no new light on what might have contributed to Stephen Paddock’s motives for committing the Oct. 1 Las Vegas Strip massacre.

The autopsy, which included toxicology tests and a brain examination, found that Paddock had anti-anxiety medication in his system. It also confirmed what authorities had previously said — that Paddock died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his head after he opened fire at an outdoor concert from his 32nd-floor Mandalay Bay suite, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more.

“It seems that based on the autopsy reports there were no physical excuses for what Steve did,” said his younger brother Eric Paddock, who lives in Orlando, Fla. “We may never understand why Steve did this.”

The bullet that killed Paddock entered the roof of his mouth and traveled to the back of his head and then upward without exiting his body, leaving fractured bones along the way, the report says. Paddock also had scrapes on his right upper calf and knee and a bruise on his left calf.

A separate examination of his brain done at Stanford University found no major abnormalities, including no evidence of Alzheimer’s disease.

Amounts of nordiazepam, oxazepam and temazepam, which are consistent with the anti-anxiety drug Valium, were found in his urine, a toxicology report shows. There was no mention in the results of substances associated with alcohol.

Paddock, 64, also had hypertensive cardiovascular disease, according to the autopsy report, which was prepared by Dr. Lisa Gavin of the Clark County coroner’s office. Gavin performed the autopsy Oct. 6.

The results of the autopsy and brain examinations have been long anticipated. Police have yet to determine a motive for the shooting, and speculation has swirled about mental or physical health conditions that might have provided clues to his violent behavior.

Last week, at the request of the Review-Journal and The Associated Press, District Judge Timothy Williams ordered Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg to turn over Paddock’s autopsy records to the news organizations, but Fudenberg refused to release it until it was finalized.

In the same hearing, Williams ordered the coroner to release autopsy reports of the 58 people Paddock killed at the Route 91 country music festival in the worst mass shooting in modern American history. Fudenberg released the reports the next day.

He said in December that Paddock, a high-rolling video poker player, committed suicide. He killed himself as officers closed in on his hotel room after he stopped shooting.

After Paddock’s body was cremated, Fudenberg last month released the remains to the shooter’s family.

Eric Paddock flew to Las Vegas to pick up the ashes after he was unable to get the coroner’s office to send him the remains.

The newspaper reported several days after the mass shooting that a local doctor had prescribed diazepam, known by its brand name Valium, for Stephen Paddock in June. The prescription was for 50, 10-milligram tablets.

Diazepam is a sedative-hypnotic drug in the class of benzodiazepines, which studies have shown can trigger aggressive behavior.

Samples of Paddock’s blood, urine and hair were used to perform the toxicology testing, according to the report released Friday.

Laura M. Labay, a forensic toxicologist with NMS Labs, a private clinical and forensic toxicology lab in Pennsylvania, reviewed the results at the request of the coroner’s office, according to the report.

“Specifically, you would like to know if substances found in Mr. Paddock’s biological samples may be the reason for the production of violent and aggressive behavior,” Labay stated in a letter Monday to the coroner’s office.

Paddock’s toxicology results also found arsenic, lead and selenium in his blood. Labay stated that arsenic and selenium, even at high levels, were not linked to violent and aggressive behavior. While lead can be associated with cognitive effects, there was not enough of it in Paddock’s system to show that it would cause such behavior, Labay noted.

Mercury was also found in Paddock’s blood, according to the toxicology report. Labay noted that mercury levels can rise because of seafood consumption or environmental exposure. Eric Paddock said his brother frequently ate sushi.

“My opinion is that if Mr. Paddock was experiencing toxicity to any of the identified elements he would have experienced a constellation of symptoms specifically related to that element’s known toxic profile,” Labay stated.

Paddock’s toxicology results also showed concentrations of substances associated with benzodiazepines, drugs prescribed for conditions such as anxiety, insomnia and agitation, Labay stated.

“The finding of these substances in urine and not in blood show that Mr. Paddock had previously used or was exposed to this drug class,” Labay noted.

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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #411 on: February 11, 2018, 12:11:31 PM »
"It's all about the druuuuugs..."
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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #412 on: February 11, 2018, 04:40:29 PM »
I don't believe a word of the autopy report.  Maybe true.  Maybe total bullshit.


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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #413 on: February 11, 2018, 05:09:07 PM »
That's pretty much my take on everything these days.
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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #414 on: February 11, 2018, 05:22:05 PM »
It must be those Russian bots making us skeptical of anything our government says anymore.  Or so the demo-commies keep telling us.


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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #415 on: March 12, 2018, 11:47:02 AM »
From True Pundit so take it for what it's worth...

FBI Insiders Blow Whistle on Massive Las Vegas Cover Up; Agents Told Not to Investigate Key Evidence Including ISIS Terror Link to Mandalay Bay Massacre
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The “official” narrative you’ve been fed by the FBI and Las Vegas officials about the massacre at Mandalay Bay that claimed 58 lives is purely fiction, a polished story contrived to cover up the disturbing facts surrounding the worst mass shooting ever in the United States, according the FBI insiders and high-ranking intelligence officials.

And now, after months of corporate-infused spin by MGM Resorts and outright lies from officials in the FBI and the Las Vegas Metro Police Department, federal agents and intelligence officials are spilling the beans about what really happened on and before the Oct. 1 massacre.

“It’s a movie script that was written after the shooting to rewrite what really happened,” one FBI agent said. “The investigation is an entirely different story that we are not allowed to talk about. If we do and get caught, we get fired and probably charged (criminally).”

But why the cover up?

The answer to that is perhaps even more complicated than the revelations surrounding the shooting, which can only be explained as shocking and troubling to everyday Americans not connected to the law enforcement community and political machine that has become today’s FBI. While few if any bright Americans believed the official back story of the supposed Stephen Paddock rampage, the truth — it turns out — is even more bizarre than fiction here.

In fact, it’s downright frightening.

The FBI maintains that Stephen Paddock — the reported lone gunman — was a mystery man and his motive for killing dozens and injuring over 500 people still has not been pinpointed. Those assertions are simply untrue, FBI officials confirm. Lies. In the coming weeks, True Pundit will detail various parts of its investigation into the shooting and more importantly, paint a detailed portrait of the events leading to the shooting and Paddock’s likely accomplices and associates.

The major, shocking revelations include:

    When FBI brass was provided with forensic evidence of multiple gunmen, they told agents to stand down and focus on Paddock only. Even a key internal audio captured by a hotel guest of multiple rifles firing from Mandalay Bay went ignored, covered up.
    When FBI brass was provided the names of persons of interest who likely assisted Paddock, agents were instructed not to interview the individuals. One would-be target was never pursued despite pleadings from intelligence officials and agents that he was possibly the second shooter.
    The FBI uncovered specific evidence showing that Paddock was anti-Trump and had an affiliation with ANTIFA, though it never was divulged to the public and agents did not follow such leads, per orders of their superiors.
    When FBI brass was given evidence that the shooting was possibly linked to ANTIFA radicals working with an ISIS-linked terror faction — including the full identities of some of the suspects with ties to both radical groups and at or near Mandalay Bay the night of the deadly shooting — agents were never instructed to follow up on the investigation and pursue the suspects.
    When intelligence officials approached the FBI and LVMPD with external evidence that Paddock was only one member of an organized  terror cell — which included as many as five gunman who planned to fire from the Mandalay Bay suite — the compelling evidence was covered up. Never pursued.
    When FBI brass was provided with forensic evidence that Paddock’s death was not a suicide, the intelligence was never pursued by the FBI and LVMPD. FBI sources said Paddock suffered two gunshots. His autopsy report only details a single bullet to the head. FBI sources maintain Paddock’s autopsy was doctored and is a fraud.
    When an ISIS-linked “businessman” from Turkey was pinpointed in the investigation — and found to be residing near Las Vegas at the time of the shooting — FBI agents were not instructed to follow up and pursue intelligence leads showing possible links to the massacre.
    FBI and intelligence officials believe Paddock and associates chose to strike the Las Vegas country music concert with over 22,000 people because they likely supported President Trump. FBI agents said they were instructed to keep that key motive quiet too.
    When MGM refused to share cctv footage from Mandalay Bay, FBI agents were threatened by superiors that any whistle blowers divulging such revelations to the media would lose their jobs. The FBI still has never been provided all the camera footage from the Mandalay Bay, FBI agents said.
    When FBI agents and agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives informed FBI bosses that Paddock didn’t start buying dozens of guns until after Trump’s election, they were told to keep that fact quiet and shrouded.
    When FBI agents followed up on an ABC News report that Paddock wired $100,000 to the Philippines shortly before the rampage they confirmed the report was untrue. Instead of disputing it, FBI bosses embraced the false story, saying it helped build the narrative the Bureau was constructing about Paddock. FBI agents believe the story was planted with ABC by their superiors.

And there is much much more that is not detailed here today. This is only a summary of True Pundit’s investigation.

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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #416 on: March 12, 2018, 03:38:32 PM »
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From True Pundit so take it for what it's worth...

FBI Insiders Blow Whistle on Massive Las Vegas Cover Up; Agents Told Not to Investigate Key Evidence Including ISIS Terror Link to Mandalay Bay Massacre
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Anonymous sources, lurid innuendo, impossible to verify; reminds me of #RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! leaks. :rolleyes:

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Re: Mass shooting Las Vegas, over 50 dead, 100 injured
« Reply #417 on: March 14, 2018, 04:06:46 PM »
Key Forensic Evidence in Las Vegas Shooting Sidestepped; FBI Brass Applauded Ignorance While Loved Ones Buried Their Dead
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The FBI and the Las Vegas Metro Police Department did not follow credible leads revealing the distinct possibility of another shooter working inside the hotel suite alongside Stephen Paddock, FBI insiders and intelligence officials confirm.

When FBI brass was provided with forensic evidence of multiple gunmen, they told agents to stand down and focus on Stephen Paddock only. Even a key video captured by a hotel guest of multiple rifles firing from Mandalay Bay went ignored, covered up.

The troubling debate among veteran FBI agents and intelligence experts isn’t the question of whether there were multiple shooters during the Las Vegas massacre in October.

The real dilemma at the heart of a supposed sweeping probe of the Mandalay Bay deadly shooting is that federal law enforcement agents were told Not to follow any and all investigative leads to determine whether Stephen Paddock had another gunmen behind the trigger.

Over 500 people gunned down and 58 killed and investigators hot on the trail are told to relax, don’t follow the clues.

When superiors instruct law enforcement to not follow credible leads, something usually smells funny for a reason and that fact has stuck with FBI insiders with knowledge of the Las Vegas probe.

This is not a debate among would-be conspiracy theorists on YouTube and social media. These are seasoned professional investigators who say the Las Vegas investigation is tainted for reasons far above their pay grades, reasons they cannot comprehend. Law enforcement are trained to hunt and find bad guys and when their own bosses become an obstacle to that process — especially in a high-profile case like the Las Vegas shooting that killed 58 concert goers — suspicions begin to spill over.

And some media become a clearing house to air those grievances to the public, while some other media help keep the secrets shrouded. A public tug of war of sorts that often takes on a life of its own, moving the debate from the shadows into the public spotlight for all to judge.

In the sunlight.

Law Enforcement has publicly refused to consider a possible second shooter theory; however, some analysts appear to be looking at other possible evidence suggesting that Paddock did not act alone, directly or indirectly.  The recent arrest of Douglas Haig for providing illegal ammunition to Mr. Paddock is not considered strategically relevant, FBI insiders maintain.

Haig’s arrest is a smoke screen disguised as a meaty bone tossed to the growing number of people who feel Paddock had co-conspirators.

A key video captured during the shooting is a game changer, according to intelligence officials who maintain the audio on the feed clearly indicate an overlap of rifle fire — multiple rifles firing from Mandalay Bay. But that nine-minute video, attached below, has been ignored, covered up, by FBI brass, sources said.

<see link for rest of article and some video>
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