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SHARE ACT
« on: June 15, 2017, 09:41:14 PM »

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Re: SHARE ACT
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2017, 02:33:45 PM »
Here is an excerpt from the SHARE Act. It sticks it to states like NY and NJ for their "legal" harassment. Other sections address. creation and operation of public shooting ranges. In its entirety You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

TITLE XII—INTERSTATE TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION
SEC. 1201. INTERSTATE TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Section 926A of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
 ‘‘§926A. Interstate transportation of firearms or ammunition
‘‘(a) Notwithstanding any provision of any law, rule, or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof:
‘‘(1) A person who is not prohibited by this chapter from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm or ammunition shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where the person may lawfully possess, carry, or transport the firearm to any other such place if, during the transportation, the firearm is unloaded, and—
‘‘(A) if the transportation is by motor vehicle, the firearm is—
‘‘(i) not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle;
‘‘(ii) in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; or
‘‘(iii) secured by a secure gun storage or safety device; or
‘‘(B) if the transportation is by other means, the firearm is in a locked container or secured by a secure gun storage or safety de- vice.
 ‘‘(2) A person who is not prohibited by this chapter from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm or ammunition shall be entitled to transport ammunition for any lawful purpose from any place where the person may lawfully possess, carry, or transport the ammunition, to any other such place if, during the transportation, the ammunition is not loaded into a firearm, and—
‘‘(A) if the transportation is by motor vehicle, the ammunition is—
‘‘(i) not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle; or
‘‘(ii) is in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; or ‘‘(B) if the transportation is by other
means, the ammunition is in a locked container. ‘‘(b) In subsection (a), the term ‘transport’ includes staying in temporary lodging overnight, stopping for food, fuel, vehicle maintenance, an emergency, medical treatment, and any other activity incidental to the transport. ‘‘(c)(1) A person who is transporting a firearm or ammunition may not be arrested or otherwise detained for violation of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof related to the possession, transportation, or carrying of firearms, unless there
1.   is probable cause to believe that the person is doing so in a manner not provided for in subsection (a).
(2) When a person asserts this section as a defense in a criminal proceeding, the prosecution shall bear the burden of proving, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the conduct of the person did not satisfy the conditions set forth in subsection (a).
(3) When a person successfully asserts this section as a defense in a criminal proceeding, the court shall award the prevailing defendant a reasonable attorney’s fee.
(d)(1) A person who is deprived of any right, privilege, or immunity secured by this section, section 926B or 926C, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage of any State or any political subdivision thereof, may bring an action in any appropriate court against any other person, including a State or political subdivision thereof, who causes the person to be subject to the deprivation, for damages and other appropriate relief.
(2) The court shall award a plaintiff prevailing in an action brought under paragraph (1) damages and such other relief as the court deems appropriate, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.’’.

(b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of sections
for such chapter is amended in the item relating to section 926A by striking ‘‘firearms’’ and inserting ‘‘firearms or ammunition’’.
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Re: SHARE ACT
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2017, 03:12:43 PM »
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Here is an excerpt from the SHARE Act. It sticks it to states like NY and NJ for their "legal" harassment. Other sections address. creation and operation of public shooting ranges. In its entirety You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
There is much to like (for firearm owners) in that proposed bill. Beyond the modifications to FOPA and the inclusion of the hearing protection act language is the following sections:

Elimination  of  authority  to  reclassify  popular  rifle  ammunition  as  ‘‘armor piercing ammunition’’.
Elimination  of  restrictions  on  importation  of  non-National  Firearms  Act  firearm  or  ammunition  that  may  otherwise  be  lawfully  possessed and sold in the United States.
Protection  of  shotguns,  shotgun  shells,  and  large  caliber  rifles  from  arbitrary classification as ‘‘destructive devices’’.
Broadening  of  the  temporary  interstate  transfer  provision  to  allow  temporary  transfers  for  all  lawful  purposes rather  than  just  for  ‘‘sporting purposes’’.

Some of these however may be "poison pill" type things for certain gun owners who own things that would loose substantial value if the entire proposed bill were enacted.
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Re: SHARE ACT
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2017, 03:44:29 PM »
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There is much to like (for firearm owners) in that proposed bill. Beyond the modifications to FOPA and the inclusion of the hearing protection act language is the following sections:

Elimination  of  authority  to  reclassify  popular  rifle  ammunition  as  ‘‘armor piercing ammunition’’.
Elimination  of  restrictions  on  importation  of  non-National  Firearms  Act  firearm  or  ammunition  that  may  otherwise  be  lawfully  possessed and sold in the United States.
Protection  of  shotguns,  shotgun  shells,  and  large  caliber  rifles  from  arbitrary classification as ‘‘destructive devices’’.
Broadening  of  the  temporary  interstate  transfer  provision  to  allow  temporary  transfers  for  all  lawful  purposes rather  than  just  for  ‘‘sporting purposes’’.

Some of these however may be "poison pill" type things for certain gun owners who own things that would loose substantial value if the entire proposed bill were enacted.
The hearing protection act is a poison pill that is sure to kill this SHARE act. Why add something we already know  will not stand on its own. Why does anyone think it will stand when added to all that other stuff. This could be the thing that is used for an excuse to kill it all. I am not happy about the addition of this to a bill that is so full of good for us.

Who here actually believes the Government wants to make gun ownership easier for Americans.  Most think it is to easy already. Who here actually believes the Government will willingly give up a revenue source? Who here actually believes the Government will willfully refund any tax they have already collected?

Some have said the total amount of money is so small when compared to the budget the loss of revenue will not matter. I say when trying to save money or reduce spending that you watch the dimes and the dollars will follow. Well with the Government the dimes are millions of dollars and the dollar is billions of dollars. That money will not come in but they will not cut the budget to reflect the loss of income.

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Re: SHARE ACT
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2017, 04:37:07 PM »
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The hearing protection act is a poison pill that is sure to kill this SHARE act.
I suspect that just about all of the sections that deal with firearms are going to end up being a potential poison pill that could easily kill the entire bill. Its like they stuffed everything into one bill for what ever reason. At least they didn't put national carry into this (yet).

Its probably going to be a straight party line vote if it ever gets that far with the potential for some RINO's (just enough) crossing the isle and voting nyet on it to kill it.
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Re: SHARE ACT
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2017, 08:15:01 AM »
Technically it still does nothing for "magazines" and "clips" even though one might assume they are an integral part of a firearm and therefore included    :chairshot:

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Re: SHARE ACT
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2017, 08:00:04 PM »
Those of us who sometimes travel in vehicles like Motorcycles are excluded by this proposal because of constraints on storage!

This bill does make it easier to move your property but as far as any other type of travel it still leaves you without protection with everything locked up, or have i missread this ?

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Re: SHARE ACT
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2017, 06:11:57 AM »
If I'm reading it correctly, even a long gun on a motorcycle would be OK as long as you have it locked in a gun case.

‘(A) if the transportation is by motor vehicle, the firearm is—
‘‘(i) not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle;
‘‘(ii) in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console; or
‘‘(iii) secured by a secure gun storage or safety device;

 
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