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Author Topic: anyone know any colt historians?  (Read 2683 times)

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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2017, 05:03:15 PM »
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Just a wild-assed guess, but I would say that given the prices that these Buntlines have gone for at auction, you can't get hurt if you drop $6500 on the restoration.  Some collector would undoubtedly drop 10k on even a heavily restored one with the magic serial number.  The key is having the restoration done RIGHT.

If you do go for the restoration, I hope you will take plenty of photos for a before-and-after comparison.
I fully agree with Silverbear. With gavel prices that high on original guns I would expect yours to be worth about 1/2 (ish) when it is restored. There are a lot of collectors and not a lot of guns out there for them. Although yours will not be original it will look like it in the display case and in your hand so it will do the trick for many collectors who just can't justify the unmolested gun or want to fill the hole until a real one comes along.

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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2017, 07:44:20 PM »
Great points, just getting everything ready to ship it next week to him.

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Re: anyone know any colt historians? UPDATE
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2017, 04:29:42 PM »
the colt was dropped off today to begin its restoration. I was put in contact with a guy here locally that has been building these forever, and is used by companies like turnbull, ect....

To my amazement, he actually had everything needed for the restoration like the 16" barrel, front and rear sight, all internals, pair of original walnut grips with enough meat to fit perfectly to the frame/, and last buy not least he had a skeleton stock that is period correct. It will be case colored hardened for the frame and charcoal blued everything else.

Found out that it looks to have been shipped back to colt for some things, not sure exactly what, hopefully will find more info sometime next week as the gentleman who is performing the work has a colt historian friend......

now I am getting a little excited.........

**mine is 1 of the first 15 made with the 16" barrel ( only 28 made total) now that is some rare shit right there.......
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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2017, 09:58:14 PM »
So I received a call saying my colt is ready...... hopefully pick it up monday at some point.

about an hour or 2 ago, i got an email from the original person I was talking to about doing the restoration. He comes highly reccomended, has a lot of experience with colt saa, ect..... he was north of $6500+ . I was also given a guys name that is local here and has many many years of experience as well. I met with him and saw his shop and he actually has all the replacement parts to show me while there as well as showing me one of his resto's he did as well, and along with a lot of research on him i decided to have him do it.

long story short.............


the email reads "that he is very sad I did not have him put his 30 years of experience into the colt and even more sad I let an amateur work on such a rare gun. That the parts I will probably use are from italy ( uberti) and wont fit correctly, that i hope I dont regret my choice as auction houses dont like unknown crafts persons."

45 minutes later " that it bothers him even more that i chose an amateur with no experience that may ruin it. that restoring this gun is like restoring an antique car, only certain people are capable. he is the only person good enough to restore it and he is the only one who has the correct parts, correct tolls, correct stamps for numbers and roll marks, ect. and doubtful anyone else has this stuff. its sad that the cost would have me have an amateur do it, and that i should call the auction houses and talk to them about who restores it before my guy ruins it......


All I can say is I am glad I didnt have this jackoff tough the gun. he may be good, but the guy I had restore it :

--has the correct parts needed including the 16" barrel and rear flip sight, skeleton stock, leather case. he mic'd all the part sizes in front of me ect
-- showed me all the parts he was using in person, along with other guns he has finished
-- the tools he uses, which were impressive.
-- correct authentic colt stamps and dies and rollmark dies colt used
-- he does his own charcoal nitride bluing ( taught by turnbull)
-- does his own case color hardening
-- has just as many years building and restoring single action army guns
-- a few weeks wait vs 2 years.
-- nice guy without the attitude  ;D
-- sells parts to turnbull for their custom single action guns.

i cant wait to post the pics on the colt sight and just to show this other guy his attitude cost him big. I have never had a company send pissed off emails like this or that said the guy i am using sucks.... WOW.......
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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2017, 10:15:35 PM »
Oh stop whining and send it to me.  I will fix it with Glock parts.  Glock perfection and all that don't ya know.

Buntline 10mm will be collectible.  You will be rich after I fix that thing.

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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2017, 06:08:14 AM »
That original person may be wonderful at restoring guns, but he's a lousy businessman.  Sending whining emails after the customer has made up his mind is not a good way to promote his business.

I'm really looking forward to seeing pictures!
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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2017, 05:38:02 PM »
That gun should've went to Dave Lanara .

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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2017, 05:45:19 PM »
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That gun should've went to Dave Lanara .

why is that?   
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Re: a few colt pics updated
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2017, 06:22:50 PM »
here are a few quick shots with my crappy iphone.......  tomorrow i will take a bunch as i have a photo light box coming and can get some really nice pics.....

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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2017, 06:27:14 PM »
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That original person may be wonderful at restoring guns, but he's a lousy businessman.  Sending whining emails after the customer has made up his mind is not a good way to promote his business.

I'm really looking forward to seeing pictures!
Thats right. You don't promote your business by insulting other business. It is ok to compare one to another but to call them an amateur. Does he even know who is doing the work?

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Re: anyone know any colt historians?
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2017, 06:27:35 PM »
i saw the thread , and know he is very talented and knowledgeable.