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Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« on: February 15, 2012, 07:46:56 PM »
SB 64 - AN ACT CONCERNING REGULATION OF FIREARMS

The DESPP is once again trying to act to incrementally take away liberties from Connecticut citizens with no public safety or statistical concern.

(a) (1) No person shall carry a pistol, revolver, machine gun, shotgun, rifle or other firearm, which is loaded and from which a shot may be discharged, upon his person (A) while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or any drug, or both, or (B) while the ratio of alcohol in the blood of such person is [ten-hundredths] eight-hundredths of one per cent or more of alcohol, by weight.

(b) (1) No person shall engage in hunting while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or any drug, or both, or while impaired by the consumption of intoxicating liquor. A person shall be deemed under the influence when at the time of the alleged offense the person (A) is under the influence of intoxicating liquor or any drug, or both, or (B) has an elevated blood alcohol content. For the purposes of this subdivision, "elevated blood alcohol content" means (i) a ratio of alcohol in the blood of such person that is [ten-hundredths] eight-hundredths of one per cent or more of alcohol, by weight, or (ii) if such person has been convicted of a violation of this subsection, a ratio of alcohol in the blood of such person that is seven-hundredths of one per cent or more of alcohol, by weight. A person shall be deemed impaired when at the time of the alleged offense the ratio of alcohol in the blood of such person was more than seven-hundredths of one per cent of alcohol, by weight, but less than [ten-hundredths] eight-hundredths of one per cent of alcohol, by weight.

(e) Upon the sale, delivery or other transfer of any pistol or revolver, the person making the purchase or to whom the same is delivered or transferred shall sign a receipt for such pistol or revolver, which shall contain the name, [and] address and date and place of birth of such person,

(b) Upon the delivery of the firearm, the purchaser shall sign in triplicate a receipt for such firearm, which shall contain the name, [and] address and date and place of birth of such purchaser, the date of sale [,] and the caliber, make, model and manufacturer's number and a general description [thereof] of the firearm.


We need to send a strong message to our legislators. They have more important things to do than to try and take away our liberties. They can start with putting the teeth into the deadlines of pistol permits and working to fix the SPBI backlog (http://ctcarry.com/Issues/SPBIBacklog).
We must insist that the DESPP does not get to erode our freedoms, particularly while they are totally denying liberties to so many people in Connecticut.

View and track the bill here:
http://cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&bill_num=SB-64
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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 09:45:10 PM »
I guess I missed the rash of crimes that could have been prevented by reducing the BAC .02%.

Here is my suggested legislation - if you don't get all the things done,you are supposed to get done during regular session (like pass a budget) and have to go into special session, the entire special session should be funded by the legislators.  The light bill, the cleaning staff, the paper, pens and envelopes.  All of it.  Then these clowns could focus on what really needs to be done instead of these nonsense laws.
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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 09:53:59 PM »
I guess I missed the rash of crimes that could have been prevented by reducing the BAC .02%.

And where are the statistics from year and years of the law being this way and causing a problem?
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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 08:21:16 AM »
These seems like they set it up intentionally to be a gotcha.

I can already see the cries of "The irrational gun lobby thinks they should be able to drink alcohol and carry deadly weapons."

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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 09:34:49 AM »
emailed both mine.  To bad we could not charge legislators with drunken law making..

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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 09:38:19 AM »
I can already see the cries of "The irrational gun lobby thinks they should be able to drink alcohol and carry deadly weapons."

That is why we need to highlight how dishonest it looks when they sneak this kind of erosion in while they are sitting on 1000+ people's rights.
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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 09:42:02 AM »
specifically when there are two laws on the books covering what is in this bill already.  Lets waste legislative time by ratcheting down layers of fear mongering and red tape on good citizens while the state economic situation is in the shitter.

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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 09:46:41 AM »
specifically when there are two laws on the books covering what is in this bill already.  Lets waste legislative time by ratcheting down layers of fear mongering and red tape on good citizens while the state economic situation is in the shitter.

And don't forget, while the state is taking in $54,000+ in revenue and then not performing the services they are supposed to render. Instead, they are preventing people from exercising their rights and discouraging many others from even starting the process because of their inflated backlog.

How much money could the state and local issuing authorities be taking in via pistol permits if they were not stalling the process like this?
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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 09:52:51 AM »
I guess I missed the rash of crimes that could have been prevented by reducing the BAC .02%.

Here is my suggested legislation - if you don't get all the things done,you are supposed to get done during regular session (like pass a budget) and have to go into special session, the entire special session should be funded by the legislators.  The light bill, the cleaning staff, the paper, pens and envelopes.  All of it.  Then these clowns could focus on what really needs to be done instead of these nonsense laws.

Sounds like a good idea to me. I would also like to see a requirement that all sponsors of ANY legislation limiting citizens rights be required to post $10,000 bond before attaching their name to the bill. If the bill PASSES, they forfeit the bond. Same deal for ANY taxing measure. Anyone want to bet the number of bills introduced would drop dramatically? :)
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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 07:49:36 AM »
I'd just like to see them have to randomly pee in a bottle about every three months like most of us do to keep their jobs!! Along with every time they vote on any bill that raises taxes or restricts our rights!
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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 10:57:34 AM »
SB 64 is not yet dead.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2012/PSdata/ca/2012CA-00315-R001100PS-CA.htm

It will be heard in the committee meeting today. Write the public safety committee and urge them to stop this bill.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/menu/MemberList.asp?comm_code=PS

Two main issues:

 - The BAC is being lowered for no reason. There is no good to come of this.
 - The bill gives the SPBI 60 days to complete background checks for Eligibility Certificates. It is only a matter of time before this becomes the rule for pistol permits. Background checks should be instant or inside of the FBI-promised 48 hours. We should strive for instant.

Connecticut Carry's email (pdf):
http://ctcarry.com/Document/Download/db525845-dad8-4a62-b285-5cac065d4e77

More info on this sessions legislation:
http://ctcarry.com/Legislative/Session
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Re: Connecticut Carry SB 64 - Erosion of our rights
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 12:23:06 PM »
Just voted out of committee.
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