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Re: So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 08:03:50 AM »
The DPS website is full of misinformation, perhaps an email campaign to make them post accurate information is in order.
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Re: So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2012, 10:40:21 AM »
So long arm sales privately still need no forms filled out or a waiting period as long as you think the person is OK to purchase correct?
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Re: So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 10:46:45 AM »
So long arm sales privately still need no forms filled out or a waiting period as long as you think the person is OK to purchase correct?
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Re: So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2012, 11:03:12 AM »
I could not find any statute regarding the private sales of long guns and shotguns, the only statute regarding long/shot gun sales I could find is if you are selling at retail. Who defines retail I wonder?
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Re: So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2012, 03:17:25 PM »
A seller doesn't have to know the buyer, for long arms
Seller doesn't have to verify buyer is an eligible person to buy or posess long arms,
Seller doesn't have to document transactions with DPS, for long arms.
Their is one caveat, a Seller cannot knowingly transfer any firearm to an inelligble person.
Basically if your having a tag sale and you want to sell a few long guns, put them on the table and treat the sale the same as your kids old Ice skates. I've personaly bought a shotgun this way, no BS red tape.
I hope this helps clear up the confusion on private sale of a long arm, in CT.

This is OLR Sumary of CT Law on this:                       May 21, 2007     2007-R-0369
 
Long Gun Sales and Transfer Procedures

Sales by Licensees. With some exceptions, when gun dealers sell or transfer long guns, they must conform to procedures, the essential elements of which are similar to those governing handgun transfers. The law prohibits dealers from transferring long guns until two weeks after an application. It also requires DPS to conduct a national instant criminal background check on applicants (CGS § 29-37a). But the licensee does not have to know the buyer or require that he or she present valid identification.

The law exempts from the waiting period: (1) federal marshals, parole officers, and peace officers; (2) anyone with a valid hunting license, eligibility certificate, or permit to carry handguns; (3) any member of the U.S. Armed Forces; and (4) anyone buying antique firearms (CGS § 29-37a(b)). It also exempts these people and transactions from provisions requiring (1) buyers to sign a receipt for the firearm and provide certain information on themselves and the firearm and (2) dealers to send this documentation to state and local police officials.


Sales by Nonlicensees. Secondary long gun transfers (i.e, sales involving non-licensed people) are not regulated, except for the limited gun show regulation (described below). This means, among other things, that a buyer does not have to undergo criminal history record checks, and a seller does not have to (1) know the buyer, (2) verify if the buyer can legally possess firearms, or (3) document transactions with DPS . (DPS recommends that sellers document transactions nonetheless.) Under federal law, a seller cannot transfer any firearm to anyone knowing that the person cannot legally possess firearms (18 USC §§ 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d) 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30).

At least 30 days before a gun show, the organizer or other responsible party must notify the police chief, warden, or first selectman of the jurisdiction in which the show is to take place of the date, time, duration, and location of the show (CGS § 29-37g(b)). People selling or otherwise transferring guns at such shows must ask DPS to conduct national criminal history record checks on buyers and provide an authorization number for each transaction (CGS § 29-37g(c)).


Violations

The law prohibits firearm transfers (1) to ineligible people or (2) in violation of its procedures. It specifically prohibits transferring handguns to anyone who (1) cannot legally possess them under state law or (2) does not have a permit to carry handguns, a firearm dealer's permit, or an eligibility certificate (CGS § 29-33(a) and (b)). Transferring a handgun in violation of the procedures or to an ineligible person is a class D felony. But it is a class B felony if the person transferring the firearm knows that

it is stolen or that the manufacturer's number or serial number has been removed, defaced, altered, or obliterated (CGS § 29-33(i)). The court may, in some circumstances, suspend prosecution for a first minor violation.

The law contains no specific penalty for transferring long guns to ineligible persons or violating the transfer procedures (CGS § 29-37a).
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Re: So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 05:23:58 PM »
I checked my bookmark and it leads me to this page:

http://www.ct.gov/despp/site/default.asp

I particularly like the idea that the 'Pistol Permit' link is just below the 'Sex Offender Registry.'

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Re: So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2012, 06:53:46 PM »
Speaking of old DPS tricks, this"clarifying" bill was referred to the Public Safety Committee today...
http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&bill_num=SB64&which_year=2012
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So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2012, 06:56:17 PM »
When I got my permit 2 weeks ago the sign at dps said no papers are required for long gun transfers. Rereading the thread I remembered that. It was on the wall where the permit line forms.

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Re: So, DPS' website changed, and so did some wording...
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2012, 09:43:53 PM »
there's no wait for rifles in private sales. Paperwork nor a call to the DPS is not necessary on rifles. Ever.



February 2011, DPS tried to push through House Bill 5800 "An Act Requiring The Registration of ALL Firearms"

I testified AGAINST it!
I GUARANTEE you that the bill FAILED!

There is no need to register a private long gun sale with DPS.
They ARE making up their own rules up there again!
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