Shooting a robber at another family's home?

[SPOProds-Sean O.]

Unless, of course, they are evil "assault weapons".  Then they must be unloaded and inaccessible.

Are you saying if you have a pre ban ar the rules are different? Sorry for the ignorant question..

No...he's talking about the banned by name assault weapons.

Sec. 53-202d subsection(d)
(6) While transporting the assault weapon between any of the places mentioned in this subsection, or to any licensed gun dealer, as defined in subsection (d) of section 53-202f, for servicing or repair pursuant to subsection (c) of section 53-202f, provided the assault weapon is transported as required by section 53-202f.

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Sec. 53-202f. Transportation of assault weapon. Authorized actions of gun dealer. (a) While transporting an assault weapon between any of the places mentioned in subdivisions (1) to (6), inclusive, of subsection (d) of section 53-202d, no person shall carry a loaded assault weapon concealed from public view or knowingly have, in any motor vehicle owned, operated or occupied by him (1) a loaded assault weapon, or (2) an unloaded assault weapon unless such weapon is kept in the trunk of such vehicle or in a case or other container which is inaccessible to the operator of or any passenger in such vehicle. Any person who violates the provisions of this subsection shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than three years or both.

[dkv]

So what about the whole "A robber enters my girlfriends family house?" Do I have the okay to shoot him if that person is a threat?

As others have said, take a class about the law . . . I think that, in your girlfriend's family's house you still have a duty to retreat because it is not your residence or business.  Unless, of course, other people are in danger and are unable to retreat.

[PogiMoto]

I'm going to look for a self defense class in my local area now, it would be great to know when and where I use my gun if I ever become a hostage.

[Rich_B]

I'm going to look for a self defense class in my local area now, it would be great to know when and where I use my gun if I ever become a hostage.

Very good. I applaud you for your decision.

I recommend you actually post a new thread and ask for recommendations on what class to attend. I know there are some going on, although I am not sure of the details. I would also PM RayJay, he seems to offer a good course.

[MadSmith]

So what about the whole "A robber enters my girlfriends family house?" Do I have the okay to shoot him if that person is a threat?

There are strict definitions of terms required for an intelligent conversation.  Vague terminology gets only misunderstanding and frustration.

By 'okay to shoot him' - if you mean 'legally defensible', that requires satisfying the basic premise: "You may legally use deadly force only when there is an immediate and otherwise unavoidable danger of death or grave bodily harm to the innocent."

"Immediate" is a critical point.  It does not mean that someone might be a threat tomorrow, so you shoot him today.  And it does not mean after he's turned and run off with your bag after sucker punching you.  Much as you may want to shoot him, at that point he is running away and is no IMMEDIATE danger to you.

The test for justification must satisfy 3 requirements:
1. Ability: The other person has the power to kill or to cripple you.

2. Opportunity: The circumstances are such that the other person would be able to use his ability against you.

3. Jeopardy: The other person's actions or words provide you with a reasonably-perceived belief that he intends to kill you or cripple you.

Any two may be present in many common occurrences and situations.  All three must be present for a defense of justified homicide.   

I highly recommend doing more research and take a course.

And what if I was in my car and someone tried to steal my car, do I have the right to pull my firearm out on him? Things like that, I'm still confused about.

"I was in my car" means you were not across the parking lot witnessing someone break into and steal your car.  It means you are right there, and this is no longer considered simple theft, but a carjacking.  By that, I mean that for the criminal to take your car from you, you must be subjected to threat of death or grave bodily harm, such that you would either relinquish, or be forced out of your vehicle.  At that point, it turns from simple property theft, to an immediate, physical assault upon your person.  And if this as assault passes the 3 above criteria, then you would have a case. 

There are courses available which teaches specific techniques on how to deal with situations such as this. 

[skyman]

To answer your question if the gun is not directly on you, you need to have the gun unloaded, secured(locked) and unavailable(i.e.trunk). Also you will need you ammo secured(locked) in a seperate container also unavailable to you(i.e. trunk). I hope that answers your question.

You may transport it however you wish. The people here trying to say it has to be unloaded and cased don't understand the CGS.

So you're saying I can have a pistol(1911 for example) fully loaded, one in the chamber, hammer c*cked just sliding around in my trunk and thats completely legal by CGS? Something doesn't add up. Maybe I was taught safety instead of stupidity? I'm not saying you're wrong and I understand there maybe no statute explicitly stating safety but its not going to stop me from being overly safe just because "its my right!"
Please be safe out there guys!

 

[SPOProds-Sean O.]

To answer your question if the gun is not directly on you, you need to have the gun unloaded, secured(locked) and unavailable(i.e.trunk). Also you will need you ammo secured(locked) in a seperate container also unavailable to you(i.e. trunk). I hope that answers your question.

You may transport it however you wish. The people here trying to say it has to be unloaded and cased don't understand the CGS.

So you're saying I can have a pistol(1911 for example) fully loaded, one in the chamber, hammer c*cked just sliding around in my trunk and thats completely legal by CGS? Something doesn't add up. Maybe I was taught safety instead of stupidity? I'm not saying you're wrong and I understand there maybe no statute explicitly stating safety but its not going to stop me from being overly safe just because "its my right!"
Please be safe out there guys!

 

Since he has a permit he could tie it to the roof of his car if he wants with it loaded. As long as he is in control of his pistol. I habitually place my gun between the seat and console when I get in the car. No permit is another issue.

[Rich_B]

So you're saying I can have a pistol(1911 for example) fully loaded, one in the chamber, hammer c*cked just sliding around in my trunk and thats completely legal by CGS? Something doesn't add up. Maybe I was taught safety instead of stupidity? I'm not saying you're wrong and I understand there maybe no statute explicitly stating safety but its not going to stop me from being overly safe just because "its my right!"
Please be safe out there guys!

Safety and law have nothing to do with each other. Declaring something is unlawful simply because you don't feel it is safe isn't right.

I would also argue that any modern firearm 'sliding around in your trunk' is not particularly unsafe, especially in a holster. But that is hardly relevant. Pogimoto asked the legality and was referred to (and accepted) training. Where is the issue?

[RayJay]

I'm going to look for a self defense class in my local area now, it would be great to know when and where I use my gun if I ever become a hostage.

PM sent...

[Rich_B]

I'm going to look for a self defense class in my local area now, it would be great to know when and where I use my gun if I ever become a hostage.

PM sent...

Thank you.
Could you please also email me about your next course or whatever is coming up next? rich [at] ctcarry.com