Curio & Relic Eligible

[vlt]

A friend of mine give me a flyer from a gun shop in Prescott,Az.  They have a number of weapons listed as "Curio & Relic Eligible".  Does this mean anything here in CT as far our gun laws.  If so what?

[CTShooter]

It means if you have a C&R FFL and they are not on the CT ban list you can buy them direct.

[mberoose]

I have a question about C&R FFLs that has always confused me a bit, since we're on the subject.  I've read...

"You may NOT engage in the business of buying and selling curios and relics under this license."

I realize having the C&R FFL would negate the need for an outside dealer to handle the transfer, and their transfer fees.  That I understand.

But my question is - let's say you order a Mosin Nagant off the internet and handle everything through your own C&R FFL.   Since it says the license is not intended for a C&R FFL holder to engage in the business of buying/selling curios & relics, is this to say that once a C&R rifle is "logged," so to speak, under your own C&R FFL, you can't sell it as you would otherwise be able to as a private individual?    

Possibly a dumb question, but I've always wondered.  Me, right now, could sell a long gun to pretty much any "suitable" individual, but does this mean if I obtained a C&R, I couldn't for any future C&R firearm purchases if done through my own C&R?

[mberoose]

 

[vlt]

It means if you have a C&R FFL and they are not on the CT ban list you can buy them direct.

So if I want to buy one of these items I have to have it shipped to shop with a FFL and pay there fee and pick it up from them.

[CTShooter]

vlt you are correct.

mberoose
The wording is intended to mean, you will be buying and selling items as personal collection items, not in the sale for profit, which would be a business and require a different license

[firepolock]

So if I want to buy one of these items I have to have it shipped to shop with a FFL and pay there fee and pick it up from them.

unless you have a C and R FFL, then its shipped right to you

[Turbodreams]

With a C&R, can you only buy old guns?

[firepolock]

With a C&R, can you only buy old guns?

Only the c&r guns to your door. Non c&r guns must go through a ffl still. 

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[mberoose]

With a C&R, can you only buy old guns?

From the ATF site:

Firearm curios or relics include firearms which have special value to collectors because they possess some qualities not ordinarily associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:
-Have been manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof; or
-Be certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; or
-Derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or from the fact of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.

[mberoose]

With a C&R, can you only buy old guns?

From the ATF site:

Firearm curios or relics include firearms which have special value to collectors because they possess some qualities not ordinarily associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:
-Have been manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof; or
-Be certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; or
-Derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or from the fact of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.

So, for example, if you held a C&R FFL, you could go to AIM Surplus online and order a Mosin Nagant, and instead of having it shipped to an FFL to be transferred into your name (at your expense), it could be directly shipped to you, as the C&R FFL holder, and you'd pay no transfer fees.

Costs something like $30 to obtain a C&R FFL, so if you use it once, its pretty much paid for itself. 

[CTShooter]

I will warn you though, once you see all the cool C&R stuff you can buy, your wallet is in great danger of being empty, so that 30 bucks can cost you lots