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Re: Obama working with the UN to confiscate our guns!
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 08:54:41 PM »
I worry as much as the next guy but...
1. Obama will be gone in November
2. the Senate will turn Republican in November
3. the House will remain Republican

Sleep well tonight

I hope your right, but I know people who are still going to vote for Obama, plus he has being a minority on his side. That fact alone will get him easy votes...

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Re: Obama working with the UN to confiscate our guns!
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2012, 09:04:47 PM »
I worry as much as the next guy but...
1. Obama will be gone in November
2. the Senate will turn Republican in November
3. the House will remain Republican

Sleep well tonight

I hope your right, but I know people who are still going to vote for Obama, plus he has being a minority on his side. That fact alone will get him easy votes...

Here's how I see it: 

there are 4 groups voting in the next election:
1. people who have never voted before
2. people who voted for obama
3. people who voted for McCain
4. people who will not vote who had voted in 2008.  Dead people fall into this category too.

group #1 is new young voters and people who didn't vote in 2008 but are now pissed enough to vote.  I don't expect a net gain for obama.  group #2 has lost many people and they will not vote for obama again.  Group #3, well I will guess that about 0% of the people who voted for McCain will now vote for obama.  Group #4, another net loss for obama  EXCEPT for the dead, they are the ones who you have to watch, lol.

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Re: Obama working with the UN to confiscate our guns!
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 09:37:01 PM »
I worry as much as the next guy but...
1. Obama will be gone in November
2. the Senate will turn Republican in November
3. the House will remain Republican

Sleep well tonight

You are far more optimistic than I am. Obama has already bypassed congress on several issues by using his executive orders power and no one is rising up to protest. If any Republican president did the same thing, there would be rioting in the streets. The only rioting going on now is by the thugs supporting him in an attempt to destroy our economic system.
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Re: Obama working with the UN to confiscate our guns!
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 09:23:37 AM »
I worry as much as the next guy but...
1. Obama will be gone in November
2. the Senate will turn Republican in November
3. the House will remain Republican

Sleep well tonight

You are far more optimistic than I am. Obama has already bypassed congress on several issues by using his executive orders power and no one is rising up to protest. If any Republican president did the same thing, there would be rioting in the streets. The only rioting going on now is by the thugs supporting him in an attempt to destroy our economic system.

I agree with you Lon. Like it or not IMHO BHO will get re-elected. Unfortunately, he has the support of those on entitlements, unions, lame stream media and those brain washed into believing Socialism will bring Utopia. That is a large number to overcome by everyone else. In addition, the GOP candidates seem to be helping BHO by giving him a plethora of fodder to use when his assault/campaign starts after the GOP candidate is chosen.

Maybe the balance of Congress will get tipped away from the left but even if Congress is moved further right than I think it will, as you say BHO has gone around the Constitution and Congress from day one and nobody in DC seems to say a word and that will not change.

I sincerely hope I am as wrong as wrong can be.
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Re: Obama working with the UN to confiscate our guns!
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 09:25:31 AM »
Soros advises Obama to use forceful measures to override the will of the people

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George Soros funds the Center for American Progress, which has been characterized as Barack Obama’s Ideas Factory. John Podesta, its head, led the transition team when Barack Obama became President. The Center has also become a hiring hall for the Obama team, filling its positions with former employees (among these was controversial Van Jones — who now is back at the Center).

Apparently, George Soros and his Center are upset that the American people placed a roadblock in their plans when we rose up and painted the nation red. The Center now is providing a blueprint of ways Barack Obama can do an end run around the people’s will by resorting to methods that will strike many of us as being improper-to say the least. Relying on executive orders, interpretation of regulations, rule -making and the like they are collectively a recipe for even more power being assumed by President Obama.


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Re: Obama working with the UN to confiscate our guns!
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012, 10:02:36 PM »


Researchers Predict UN Arms Trade Treaty Will Take Effect in 2012

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Researchers Paul Gallant, Alan Chwick and Joanne D. Eisen published a report in the Jan. 2012 issue of the Dillion Blue Press where they argued that a “global Arms Trade Treaty will come into force late this year.”

In that report, they make the following predictions:

•    We predict that small arms will be included, because that’s what this treaty is all about in the first place. But ammunition has, at best, a 50-percent chance of inclusion.
•    We predict that a minimal Implementation Support Unit (ISU) will be approved, and will ultimately grow into a global BATFE on steroids.

As far as the willingness of the Obama Administration to accept a treaty, they write:

“As for the US, it might seem confusing that the Obama government has taken a position against the inclusion of SALW [Small Arms and Light Weapons] and ammunition in the forthcoming Treaty. Yet, the US officially supports the inclusion of SALW into the UNROCA [UN Register of Conventional Arms] itself, as clearly stated in October 2011 by Laura E. Kennedy, one of the representatives to the UN.”


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UN’s Arms Trade Treaty – Perverting Logic While Banning Guns

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New York, NY --(Ammoland.com)- If someone lies to you in order to manipulate you into changing your behavior, you should be very cautious and look for intent.

The Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) proponents have been lying from the outset to get States to jump on the ATT bandwagon.

Just as the push for an Arms Trade Treaty was getting started, a new organization, the Geneva Declaration Organization (GDO)(http://tiny.cc/dbgqo) was created in 2006. The group’s stated goal is the reduction of world violence. But its true goal was to examine, and then exaggerate, the level of global armed violence, and thereby frighten States and their civilian populations into demanding an ATT.

    Arms Trade Treaty proponents vigorously advocated, at every opportunity, the notion that if the instruments of armed violence could be controlled, or even eliminated—especially by a global Arms Trade Treaty—the peoples of the world would be safer.

As is usually the case with weapon-prohibitionist groups, the authors focus on the instrumentality of violence, and ignore the fundamental causes of violence. In order to accomplish this, they use the same tactics that have brought them success in the past. They deliberately confuse “association”—that is, guns are associated with violence, and “causation”—that is, guns cause violence.


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Re: Obama working with the UN to confiscate our guns!
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 07:08:32 AM »
The UN treaty isn't going anywhere before November since it has to be ratified by the Senate. No way the Democrats in the Senate are stupid enough to introduce it in a Presidential election year, and then ratify it before November.

People seem to get in a tizzy over the UN treaty from time to time. Look the Democrats, including Obama, didn't do anything to limit guns when they had complete control of Congress and the White House for two years. Hell they couldn't even pass a budget in those two years. In fact Obama signed a bill containing the amendment for national park carry. Their backdoor try at ginning up anti gun sentiment failed with Fast and Furious and their 90% of the guns in Mexico come from this country. Banning guns via Congress is loosing proposition for liberals and most of them know it.
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