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Online Noodles McGee

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Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« on: December 18, 2011, 07:40:44 PM »
Saw this in a new CTD catalog.  Always open to new options.
Anybody got any thoughts, ideas, or expierence with this??
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM2810-1.html
5.56X45mm, Federal, 62 Grain BTHP Open Tip Match Bullet, 20 Round Box.

"This new SOST round from Federal Cartridge and was engineered for the USMC as a supplemental replacement round to M855 green tip with more desirable terminal characteristics. NSN # 1305-01-573-2229. Designated as MK318 MOD-0 the round was designed as a barrier defeating round with superior penetration and better ballistic stability when shooting through glass, car doors and other barriers where other rounds perform poorly. It was engineered after the Marine Corp identified issues with the M855 round. This round utilizes a 62 grain open tip boat tail hollow point bullet with a lead core and reverse copper jacket creating the open tip. "

Plus is almost affordable.   

I'm in a never ending quest for a simple life.  I don't want a golf bag full of guns and different types of ammo for every thought and possible scenario.  I want one maybe two different rifles.  One round type for both that will do everything. 

So far in my budget I have M193.  For just about everything.  As I rotate my ammo through range sessions I replace it with M193. 

This "new" ammo above might be my happy medium.

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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 09:01:18 PM »
Quote from: Noodles McGee on December 18, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
I'm in a never ending quest for a simple life.  I don't want a golf bag full of guns and different types of ammo for every thought and possible scenario.  I want one maybe two different rifles.  One round type for both that will do everything.


Ha! When I met you up at Metacon the day I was there with Slut and Vlod you were right next to me with a table full of guns! I think it's a great thing that you want to narrow your selection of guns down to what you use. Focus on them and learn to run them like Hendrix runs a guitar. I know you know this, but solid training trumps ammo choice every day all day.

As for the MK318 MOD-0, start here http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=60877 and here http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=90328 for all you ever wanted to know about it, but start reading that thread from the first page. It's worth your time and you will see that it's pretty solid ammo. And if you dig around the good doc's posts a bit more, you will see that 193 and 855 will do the job, but there is wayyyyy better ammo out there.

These days I just shoot steel cased ammo to train/practice and blow out all the crap with a mag of 556 pressure 193 at the end of the day. The $ I save using steel cased goes into TAP 75gr T2 or Barnes 50-70gr TSX stuff. Science doesn't lie  ;) Shot placement doen't either though.

And a bit more knowledge for ya:

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19881

and from the forum where all of the links above comes from...read the sticky's:

http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=91

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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 10:19:50 PM »
I just ordered 900 rounds of XM193 to check out. I also have some Radway Green SS109 I need to test. Oh and I have 750 rounds of Wolf .223 but I don't plan on shooting it. That is only if there was really a need to shoot it.
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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2011, 06:45:02 AM »
Good to put a face with a name! You should have seen that table a few years ago.

I'm have mental issues with practing with one type of ammo and keeping another for SD.   Mostly poa vs poi and trajectory.

Thanks for the links
Quote from: A8AWD on December 18, 2011, 09:01:18 PM
Quote from: Noodles McGee on December 18, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
I'm in a never ending quest for a simple life.  I don't want a golf bag full of guns and different types of ammo for every thought and possible scenario.  I want one maybe two different rifles.  One round type for both that will do everything.


Ha! When I met you up at Metacon the day I was there with Slut and Vlod you were right next to me with a table full of guns! I think it's a great thing that you want to narrow your selection of guns down to what you use. Focus on them and learn to run them like Hendrix runs a guitar. I know you know this, but solid training trumps ammo choice every day all day.

As for the MK318 MOD-0, start here http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=60877 and here http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=90328 for all you ever wanted to know about it, but start reading that thread from the first page. It's worth your time and you will see that it's pretty solid ammo. And if you dig around the good doc's posts a bit more, you will see that 193 and 855 will do the job, but there is wayyyyy better ammo out there.

These days I just shoot steel cased ammo to train/practice and blow out all the crap with a mag of 556 pressure 193 at the end of the day. The $ I save using steel cased goes into TAP 75gr T2 or Barnes 50-70gr TSX stuff. Science doesn't lie  ;) Shot placement doen't either though.

And a bit more knowledge for ya:

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19881

and from the forum where all of the links above comes from...read the sticky's:

http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=91
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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2011, 09:06:40 AM »
I forgot to mention that if you do pick any of this ammo up, make sure to let us know how it shoots.
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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 11:02:19 AM »
Doesn't a "lead core and reverse copper jacket creating the open tip" bullet describe most commercially-available BTHP bullets?
Unless I'm missing something, the typical BTHP has a lead core with a jacket that is formed with the opening at the tip leaving the hollow point. Most mfrs offer 42 grains to over 70 grains, too.
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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 08:12:23 PM »
I don't know what kind of lead core it has but its supposed to do good things with stuff like auto glass.

I don't think regular otm rounds do good on auto glass.

I'm diggin it cause its milspec. Aka crimped primers sealed necks and primers good crimp and 5.56 pressure. And it supposed to have some decent performance

But wait there's more!  And its under a buck a round. 16 a box of 20. I've paid that for 223 fmj. Not often but when u need ammo u will.
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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2011, 03:06:40 PM »
Go for it!
I suppose it is priced cheaper than fancy Hornady or other premium brands.
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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 11:25:28 PM »
paulie, i picked up some pulled mk318 bullets and i'm reloading a bunch.

if u wanna punch some holes in barriers, let me know.  it should not be used on the club steel, fyi.

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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 09:38:33 AM »
Quote from: 30 cal slut on January 04, 2012, 11:25:28 PM

if u wanna punch some holes in barriers, let me know.  it should not be used on the club steel, fyi.

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This MK318 should not be used on club steel? how would this be any worse than say some 7.62x39 or 308 on it?

I read up briefly on it and it looks like it doesn't even have a steel core.

can you give me some more knowledge on it?
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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2012, 08:35:26 AM »
while mk318 won't penetrate AR500 steel, they will exact a little more wear and tear on targets than M193 or commercial .223 loads.  i don't shoot at club steel with M855 either for that reason.
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Re: Anybody got any info on this ammo? (5.56 62gr OTM)
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2012, 06:38:52 AM »
Finally ordered some!  I'm hopeing for good things.

I might have time to hit the range next week.  Got new mounts for my acogs too.

A8 you'd bee amazed how much less I own now.
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